Posted on Christmas Day: artist Julia Schwartz recently interviewed me for the artist series she edits at Figure/Ground,
where I come clean about a number of things including the existence of
artists on the Egyptian side of the family, my thoughts on Virilio and
inefficiency, painting as a radical gesture, the importance of locale,
and my walking fetish --->
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Joy Garnett is
an interdisciplinary artist and writer who lives in Brooklyn, NY. Her
paintings, based on news photographs, scientific imagery, and military
documents she gathers from the Internet, locate instances of the
apocalyptic sublime in mass media culture. Her social media projects
examine the intersections of our digital and material worlds. Her work
has been exhibited at MoMA P.S.1, the Whitney Museum of American Art,
and the Milwaukee Art Museum. Her paintings have been reproduced on book
covers and in numerous publications including Harper‘s, Perspecta: The Yale School of Architecture Journal and Cabinet magazine.
Garnett serves as Arts Editor at Cultural Politics, a contemporary
media theory journal published by Duke University Press. Her writing has
appeared in the anthology Virilio Now (Polity 2011), and in the forthcoming Virilio & Visual Culture, The Virilio Dictionary (both with Edinburgh University Press 2013), and The Cultural Politics Reader (Duke
University Press 2013). She is currently working on a family memoir
about politics and art set in Egypt’s Old Regime. She is represented by Winkleman Gallery, New York.
What attracted you to the arts? What were your earliest experiences of making art?
There is definitely an artistic tendency that runs in my family.
There’s my mom, who was an artist and a freelance photographer. She was
born in Alexandria, Egypt, into a family of illustrious poets and
painters. I’ve been researching the family history on and off for years:
they were all eccentric artists! Radicals! Utopians! My grandfather,
Ahmed Zaky Abushady, was an influential Romantic poet and editor who
published several high profile journals in the 1930s and 40s. The most
radical was Apollo, a platform for experimental Arabic poetry that
really pushed the envelope. He organized a salon called ‘Apollo’s
Society,’ whose members included notable and emerging poets from around
the Arab world.
My mom grew up around a pair of eccentric older cousins, the Wanly
brothers Seif and Adham. They were famous painters of the period.
There’s now a museum wing dedicated to them in Alexandria. I think they
are the reason why my mom initially wanted to become a painter. I found
her childhood sketchbooks — she had aspirations early on. On top of
that, her mother, my grandmother, an Englishwoman, was descended from
the famous Lancashire poet and labor organizer Samuel Bamford, and
styled herself after the 19th century adventurer and author of Letters
from Egypt, Lady Duff Gordon. So, my mother and her two siblings grew up
in an atmosphere of creative and political cross-cultural ferment, in a
milieu of avant-garde and politically rambunctious artists, when Egypt
was negotiating a volatile mix of European Modernist influences and
elements of Arab nationalism. For literature and the arts it was an
exciting if difficult time, full of conflict. Her father was in the
thick of it.
I was born in the suburbs less than an hour’s drive from New York
City, which was my immediate source for art when I was a teenager. My
mom had me drawing and painting when I was one or two years old. She was
then dabbling in oil paint — she was a truly awful painter! She didn’t
inherit the Wanly genes, unfortunately. But happily, she was already
quite a good photographer. We would paint together in a small room at
home that she had tricked out as a studio. Soon she dropped painting
altogether and committed herself to photography — good move. She used to
tease me that there was room for only one painter in the family. She
went on to become quite accomplished. She was obsessive, really. Our
house was one large darkroom and studio with storage for her work. She
was never not working on her photographs. I wonder if this, along with
my fraught, competitive relationship with her, has something to do with
my need to make and remake the connections between painting and
photography in my own work.
My dad too was in the habit of producing large numbers of photographs
of a more technical nature. He is a scientist, and I grew up hanging
around his lab and helping him with experiments. He had an additional
home lab in the basement, adjacent to my mom’s darkroom. It was like an
artist’s studio. He would attach a camera to the oculus of his
microscope in order to document experiments, sometimes with Polaroids,
sometimes with 35mm film. I remember having fun manipulating the
microscope mirror in order to emphasize different details before
photographing them. Among other things, this gave me a sense of the
artful, constructed and interpretive nature of photographs, even when
they are functioning as scientific evidence. Something I was to circle
back to later as a painter. [....]
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